"Before you get to the joy that nothing around you can destroy or threaten, what do you have to do? You probably have to lose everything.
'Losing' just means the willingness to relinquish. It's simple: I
either cling; it doesn't happen until I have this, until I have that and
I say, good luck! You can carry that up until your nineties and it comes
out nowhere until your next reincarnation and the one after that and the one after that. I have to clarify, what joy? Which joy? Isn't that called ananda?"
Michael Hughes on how "us, normal people" can find true happiness.
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